F1 drivers championship after the 2020 Tuscan Grand Prix Ferrari 1000
Driver | Total | |
---|---|---|
1 | Lewis Hamilton | 190 |
2 | Valtteri Bottas | 135 |
3 | Max Verstappen | 110 |
4 | Lando Norris | 65 |
5 | Alexander Albon | 63 |
6 | Lance Stroll | 57 |
7 | Daniel Ricciardo | 53 |
8 | Charles Leclerc | 49 |
9 | Sergio Perez | 44 |
10 | Pierre Gasly | 43 |
11 | Carlos Sainz Jnr | 41 |
12 | Esteban Ocon | 30 |
13 | Sebastian Vettel | 17 |
14 | Daniil Kvyat | 10 |
15 | Nico Hulkenberg | 6 |
16 | Kimi Raikkonen | 2 |
16 | Antonio Giovinazzi | 2 |
18 | Kevin Magnussen | 1 |
19 | Nicholas Latifi | 0 |
19 | George Russell | 0 |
19 | Romain Grosjean | 0 |
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F1 constructors championship after the 2020 Tuscan Grand Prix Ferrari 1000
Team | Total | |
---|---|---|
1 | Mercedes | 325 |
2 | Red Bull | 173 |
3 | McLaren | 106 |
4 | Racing Point | 92 |
5 | Renault | 83 |
6 | Ferrari | 66 |
7 | AlphaTauri | 53 |
8 | Alfa Romeo | 4 |
9 | Haas | 1 |
10 | Williams | 0 |
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knightameer (@knightameer)
13th September 2020, 16:52
Ferrari should start focusing on consolidating 6th in WCC. Alpha Tauri closing in these past three races.
Jay
13th September 2020, 16:57
Norris leading the mid-championship with Kvyat last.
BasCB (@bascb)
13th September 2020, 19:18
And an Honorable mention for Hulkenberg!
LB (@burden93)
13th September 2020, 17:10
Lewis to win the championship in Turkey?
KaIIe (@kaiie)
13th September 2020, 20:24
Could be. Hamilton can afford to finish second in all the remaining races if he grabs a few fastest laps as well to be guaranteed of the championship, even if Bottas won all of them (which is naturally not going to happen).
melanos
13th September 2020, 19:00
After this chaotic race in N2M2F1*, with a hat trick (pole, flap & win) by Alexander Albon, the WDC positions are:
1st Norris 119 points
2nd Stroll 107 points
3rd Albon 106 points
4th Ricciardo 90 points
5th Perez 88 points
6th Gasly 75 points
7th Sainz 71 points
8th Leclerc 70 points
9th Ocon 59 points
10th Vettel 47 points
11th Kvyat 36 points
12th Hülkenberg 12 points
13th Raïkkönen 12 points
14th Giovinazzi 8 points
15th Latifi 6 points
16th Russell 6 points
17th Grosjean 4 points
18th Magnussen 2 points
And the WCC positions:
1st Red Bull Racing 212 points**
2nd Racing Point 207 points
3rd McLaren 190 points
4th Renault 149 points
5th Ferrari 117 points
6th Alpha Tauri 111 points
7th Alfa Romeo 20 points
8th Williams 12 points
9th Haas 6 points
* F1.5 (F1 without Merc, Ferrari and RBR) used to be a good idea, that’s where all the action was. But it is obsolete this season, as the 2020 Ferrari belongs squarely in the midfield. I would also put Alex Albon there, but not Max Verstappen. So the new thing is N2M2F1 (no Mercs, no Max F1).
**This one is a bit tricky: with Max out, there is only one RBR scoring points, which is unfair, so for the N2M2F1 championship, Albon’s point are doubled.
posaunist
13th September 2020, 19:11
Are you providing the prizes for these competitions?
melanos
13th September 2020, 19:20
I grant the bragging rights ;D
melanos
13th September 2020, 19:19
So far, ten drivers have been in the podium in N2M2F1; by WDC order they are:
Norris: 3 times (1 win, 1 second, 1 third)
Stroll: 4 times (2 win, 2 second)
Albon: 4 times (2 win, 1 second, 1 third)
Ricciardo: 3 times (1 win, 2 second)
Perez: 5 times (1 second, 4 thirds)
Gasly: 1 time (1 win)
Sainz: 3 times (2 seconds, 1 third)
Leclerc: 2 times (2 wins)
Ocon: 1 time (1 third)
Vettel: 1 time (1 third)
And the flaps have been:
1 Norris (Austria)
1 Stroll (Styria)
3 Albon (G. Britain, 70th Anniversary, Tuscany)
1 Ricciardo (Belgium)
2 Sainz (Styria, Italy)
1 Grosjean (Spain)
melanos
13th September 2020, 20:49
Correction: 1 Stroll (Hungary)
melanos
13th September 2020, 23:00
Correction to the podiums: Ocon 1 time (1 second); Vettel 1 time (1 second)
melanos
13th September 2020, 23:16
More correction to the podiums: Stroll (2 wins, 2 thirds)
The post on podiums and flaps is a mess, this is the corrected version:
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So far, ten drivers have been in the podium in N2M2F1; by WDC order they are:
Norris: 3 times (1 win, 1 second, 1 third)
Stroll: 4 times (2 win, 2 third)
Albon: 4 times (2 win, 1 second, 1 third)
Ricciardo: 3 times (1 win, 2 second)
Perez: 5 times (1 second, 4 thirds)
Gasly: 1 time (1 win)
Sainz: 3 times (2 seconds, 1 third)
Leclerc: 2 times (2 wins)
Ocon: 1 time (1 second)
Vettel: 1 time (1 second)
And the flaps have been:
1 Norris (Austria)
1 Stroll (Hungary)
3 Albon (G. Britain, 70th Anniversary, Tuscany)
1 Ricciardo (Belgium)
2 Sainz (Styria, Italy)
1 Grosjean (Spain)
Danny
13th September 2020, 21:34
“ Norris: 3 times (1 win, 1 second, 1 third)
Stroll: 4 times (2 win, 2 second)”
This can’t be right is Norris is ahead Stroll
melanos
13th September 2020, 22:21
Certainly not. Norris has gathered a lot more points from non-podium finishes than Stroll
He has three fourth positions (Belgium, Italy and Tuscany), one fifth (Hungary), one sixth (70th A.) and one seventh (Spain) having scored in all the races. Stroll has one fourth (Styrya) one sixth (Belgium) and one seventh (GB). So, Norris is indeed ahead of Stroll (with Bernie’s proposed medal system, Stroll would be ahead, though).
melanos
13th September 2020, 23:23
It is interesting to see how the medal system would shake up things. Norris v.g. would be demoted from first to fifth.
With the medal system the positions would be (the first eight are easily deduced from the podium positions q.v. above):
1 Albon (2 win, 1 second)
2 Stroll (2 win, 2 third)
3 Leclerc (2 win, 1 fourth)
4 Ricciardo (1 win, 2 second)
5 Norris (1 win, 1 second)
6 Gasly (1 win, 1 fourth)
7 Sainz (2 seconds, 1 third)
8 Perez (1 second, 4 thirds)
9 Ocon (1 second, 1 fourth, 1 fifth)
10 Vettel (1 second, 1 fourth, 1 seventh)
11 Hulkenberg (1 fourth)
12 Kvyat (1 fifth)
13 Giovinazzi (1 sixth)
14 Raïkkönnen (1 seventh)
15 Latifi (1 eight)
16 Russell (3 ninths)
17 Magnussen (1 ninth)
18 Grosjean (3 tenths)
melanos
13th September 2020, 23:56
Not so much of a shake-up with the medal system for the WCC but Ferrari climbs fron 5th to 3rd
1st Red Bull (4 win)
2nd Racing Point (2 win, 1 second, 6 thirds)
3rd Ferrari (2 win, 1 second, 2 fourths)
4th McLaren (1 win, 3 seconds, 1 third)
5th Renault (1 win, 3 seconds, 1 fourth)
6th Alpha Tauri (1 win, 1 fourth)
7th Alfa Romeo (1 sixth)
8th Williams (1 eight)
9th Haas (1 ninth)
RP (@slotopen)
13th September 2020, 23:17
That points gap is depressing. It isn’t all Hamilton’s doing either. Verstappen had two bad weekends in a row. In Monza Bottas couldn’t convert the empty goal to a win.
Seems like only the first race, where Bottas won and Hamilton struggled, has Hamilton paid for his mistakes.
Not to take away from all the weekends when Hamilton wins. He should be leading, just not with an insurmountable gap
Chaitanya
14th September 2020, 2:16
Bottas lost all the points in Silverstone which he could have finished in 2nd place. So the gap between Lewis and Bottas has inflated due to Bottas having 0 point finish.
slowmo (@slowmo)
14th September 2020, 10:17
The complete home goal by the Mercedes team at Monza neutalised that DNF by taking a lot of points of Hamilton. The fact is Bottas has been very poor in race pace and lost out in qualifying by tiny margins that would have meant had he been ahead at the start of the race it would be harder for Hamilton. It’s also important to point out that Bottas always had the option to pit at Silverstone given the issue hes was having but he rolled the dice with his team, it wasn’t like a mechanical DNF whereby he was without fault at all.