Giovinazzi unofficially beats Hungaroring track record in F1 test

27 comments on “Giovinazzi unofficially beats Hungaroring track record in F1 test”

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   bernasaurus (@bernasaurus)
   31st July 2018, 17:22

   Temperatures, compound and track conditions aside, I have to say I’m mighty impressed by that time.
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   Jere (@jerejj)
   31st July 2018, 17:48

   But not any more ‘unofficial’ than an outright lap record for any given circuit (layout) set in qualifying and or a practice session, i.e., the fastest ever lap time around any given circuit set in qualifying and or practice is equally an ‘unofficial’ record. Nevertheless, the first ever sub-1m16s time around the current 2003-present layout of the Hungaroring circuit.
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      Jere (@jerejj)
      31st July 2018, 17:51

      I forgot to add: I wish there were onboard footage of that lap, but I doubt it, unfortunately.
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         glynh (@glynh)
         31st July 2018, 18:37

         +1 I don’t see the point of reffering to track records as unofficial.

         I can see it’s not an F1 record and a lap record has to be set during a race but if it’s set by an engine attached to wheels it’s surely a track record.
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            Jere (@jerejj)
            31st July 2018, 19:11

            @glynh Well, a track record is unofficial unless it’s set in race conditions, as, of course, only lap times set in the races are regarded as ‘official’ records, but a record set in any other session not, that’s the point.
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               glynh (@glynh)
               31st July 2018, 19:23

               @jerejj I think that’s the lap record that has to be set during the race, the track record can be officially set in other sessions, usually qualifying which is why I consider it to be the fastest any car can lap a circuit.
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               frood19 (@frood19)
               1st August 2018, 10:17

               @jerejj I think the “lap record” must be set during the race (for a specific formula), whereas the “track record” can be set whenever, by any car e.g. the Porsche 919, 5:19.546 at the nordschleife. (incidentally the F1 lap record for the old ‘ring is held by clay regazzoni, set in 1975 at 7:06.4. lauda’s pole lap was a fair bit quicker, 6:58.6. I’m not sure why they were quicker in 1975 than in 1976, possibly track conditions – there was definitely some rain around in 1976 on race day.)

               so, essentially, i think the headline is misleading or just a contradiction in terms – the track record is neither official or unofficial, it just is what it is. ferrari could have been running a V12 engine or two MGU-Ks for all we know (that’s silly but we cannot be sure they are running to championship rules).

               there’s a more complex point here in that the track, as an entity, is never going to be 100% similar from one moment to the next – this is through the surface ageing (could become better, more rubber down, or worse, more bumpy), temperature variations, changes to the kerbs, the track limits, the dryness of the grass, etc, etc. when we want to compare performance from one season to the next, for instance, we should be looking at a composite of the entire grid and adjusting for the type of lap/session the times were set in. the single headline fastest lap time offers only a small insight due to the variation of the other unknown variables.
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      Jere (@jerejj)
      1st August 2018, 10:48

      @frood19 Precisely what I sort of tried to point out, and yes, it indeed, is also true, that a track as an entity is never going to be 100% similar from one moment to the next for the various reasons you brought up, which means that, for example, two pole laps from as many different seasons around any given circuit are never 100% comparable even if the circuit layout itself was the same on both occasions, and they were both set in dry-weather conditions, since even with the same type of weather conditions both the ambient and the track temperatures can vary, which can (and usually do) affect car behaviour, and grip-levels on the track surface, etc.
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   Adrian Hancox (@ahxshades)
   31st July 2018, 18:15

   Excellent time although it was on a softer tyre than was available at the weekend. It may point to the sort of time we may have seen in a truly dry quali.
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      Jere (@jerejj)
      31st July 2018, 19:13

      @ahxshades I assume the pole time had the qualifying stayed entirely dry throughout would’ve been in the low-1m15s.
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         Cristian S (@crystakke)
         1st August 2018, 3:01

         I agree. Maybe even a high 1:14.9. Vettel’s FP3 lap was a 1:16.1. I think Q3 would’ve been like 15.8, then 15.4-5 for Q2, 15.0 for pole.
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   thegamer23
   31st July 2018, 18:15

   That’s a great lap by Giovinazzi.
   The kid deserves a race seat next season. He’s on Pierre Gasly’s level, and Gasly has impressed everyone this season so far.
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      RB13
      1st August 2018, 9:58

      Is he though? He stuffed it a couple of times in the Sauber when he stood in for Weihrlein last year. ?
5. 

   David Not Coulthard (@davidnotcoulthard)
   31st July 2018, 18:24

   And GIO did it in Sutil’s car?
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      Jere (@jerejj)
      31st July 2018, 19:12

      @davidnotcoulthard I see what you did there, LOL.
      1. 

         Marcelo Couto (@totof1)
         31st July 2018, 19:43

         Antonio Giovinazzi ran with (FIA assigned) #99, last used by Adrian Sutil in 2014. 😊😊
   2. 

      Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
      31st July 2018, 21:17

      Gasly has got Kobyashi’s car a fair number of points this season then!
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   formevic (@formevic)
   31st July 2018, 20:32

   Looking at the photo the Ferrari seems suit the new wide front wing ’19
   1. 

      BMF66
      31st July 2018, 20:49

      That’s the 2018 wing.
   2. 

      RB13
      1st August 2018, 9:59

      Only Force India and Williams ran ’19 spec wings.
7. 

   Velocityboy (@velocityboy)
   31st July 2018, 22:08

   It really looks like sometime in the last few weeks/months Ferrari had a eureka moment and it all came together.
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   joac21 (@joac21)
   31st July 2018, 22:29

   Can’t help but think that Fernando Alonso would be leading the championship in that Ferrari.
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      Peppermint-Lemon (@)
      31st July 2018, 22:46

      Yeah same, he’d be running rings around the lot of them
      The
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   Miani (@miani)
   1st August 2018, 0:05

   I agree, I think Vettel in pure speed is faster than Alonso, but Alonso is a more complete driver and he rarely make mistakes.
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      Drop Sochi
      1st August 2018, 12:25

      Alonso would be on track for #4 WDC if he had stayed and supported Ferrari.
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    Mark Sinclair
    1st August 2018, 12:30

    What cars are being used for testing? I presume it is one of the race drivers car? Eg Mercedes are using Bottas’s car.

    Or do they have a spare car used for testing?
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    Garns (@)
    1st August 2018, 14:38

    The guys at Sky Sport weren’t so keen but I think he deserves a chance in F1.

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