F1 Fanatic on The Flying Lap Episode 24

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I appeared on The Flying Lap yesterday with Peter Windsor and Sebastien Buemi.

Here’s a video of the show we talked about Toro Rosso, Monaco Grand Prix, whether the race should have been restarted, safety and lots more.

Here’s a video of the show:

Thanks to Peter for inviting me onto The Flying Lap and thanks to the F1 Fanatic readers who sent questions in including LAK!

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29 comments on “F1 Fanatic on The Flying Lap Episode 24”

  1. Good Stuff enjoyed this.

  2. Sebastian seemed pretty happy that Jaime’s race was ruined after he pulled that sneaky overtaking move on him. LOL

  3. A very clear explanation of the incident that caused the red flag from Sebastien there. He’s having a pretty good season actually…and one that hasn’t really been spoken about all that much.

  4. I was thinking of a solution for the run-off areas that would work in a way a gravel trap and asphalt do, combining the advantages of each of them.

    An asphalted runoff – it works good when the car is on its wheels. But when the car has a damaged suspension and slides on its bottom, then there is little friction and it slides like a soap on glass. And this was the problem in Perez’es crash.

    A gravel runoff – it “catches” the car regardless of its state. But once you get in the gravel, you can’t get out, and if you do, you take the gravel on track. And a gravel trap is obviously not a solution in a street circuit anyway.

    Now my solution:
    If we surfaced the runoff with a sheet of rubber, either plain or with texture/grooved (e.g. http://www.gazeta.ie/media/Image/MiniAdmin/zobaczymy2008/2008-47-narty.jpg), it would:
    – slow down a spinning car better than asphalt does
    – work even better than a gravel trap on a car that’s lost its wheels (!), because the whole bottom of the car would generate friction
    – not impede the cars driving on it, just as if they drove on conrete or asphalt

    1. If there is too much fricton on the ground like that the cars would start rolling

      1. Yes. And if there’s the perfect amount of friction, the cars would stop the way we would like them to.

        1. What makes you say so? Do you have some data to back it up? Did you conduct some tests? Did you read any peer-reviewed papers on this subject?

          To me it looks like you just assert it would work.

          The obvious flaw of this solution would be revealed in the rain. Rubber tends to be very slippery when wet.

    2. That sounds pretty good, if it was textured (ribbed or similar) with drainage holes and drains undernearth I dont see why it wouldnt work both wet and dry. Similar to how the carpets on some ski lifts stop your wet shiny skis in a hurry!

  5. Great video. Interesting to hear Alguersuari passed Buemi and they nearly crashed.

    Thanks for uploading.

  6. Will try catch this at some point.

    1. Just watched it, another good episode. great to see you getting the recognition you deserve Keith, 3rd time on TFL was it?

  7. Very nice. Firstly, it looks like you guys are using some very fancy microphones there, but really the sound quality was a bit poor… maybe due to the video feed being passed through the network/ net , but certainly there was lot of sound overlap between various commentators.

    Agree with you about DRS, but of course that is somewhat a comlicated subject. Anyway, seems like Beumi is hinting that if Mark leaves he could replace him. Hmmm, I was hoping rather that if Mark left, Red Bull would give the seat to Daniel Ricciardo.

    Regarding the Red Flag. I think there was nothing wrong with the red flag, followed by the restart. It was safe, it allowed enough time for safety personnel to clean up the track. Stopping the race altogether would not have been good. However, one major downside to the whole red flag for me, was that teams were allowed to work on the car and change tyres. That is right down silly. I believe if the race is red flagged, no work or tyre change should be allowed. Otherwise, why not just drive the whole car in the garage and simply swap it for a new one.

    Regarding Maldonado, as I thought and said before,- Hamilton’s fault. Although now Hamilton has apologized about …something, he did not necessarily apologize for taking Maldonado out or ruining his race or for making the move, but only for what he “said” to them on that BBC interview. Anyway, back to the incident. I think had Hamilton received a larger penalty for the said incident (which I think he should have), there would have been too much fiasco against the Stewards regarding the whole saga. So, on the end of the day, I believe Stewards did the right thing by awarding only a 20sec penalty (even though it was meaningless). Either way, I don’t think Hamilton is going to learn anything from it, other than perhaps to keep some of his personal thoughts on particular subjects to himself.

    Regarding Mercedes rear tyres, that is very odd indeed. I wonder if it has something to do with the design flaw on their car, or both cars/ drivers were using a similar setup that inevitably deteriorates the rear tyres far too quickly. Didn’t Ross Brawn mention on one occasion that their car has a slightly longer chassis compared to some of the other teams, or did they swap it back to the shorter version? I solt the track of that a while back. This could be one cause for tyre problems.

    1. solt = lost

    2. “he did not necessarily apologize for taking Maldonado out”

      Good. He dosnt need to apologise for any of the on-track inncodents.

    3. The flying lap is always plagued with sound issues. :)

      Considering it was labelled as a Monaco GP debrief there was surprisingly little discussion about what has been the global talking point of the week – overtaking.

      I disagree however with your Hamilton vs Maldonado view – entirely.

      1. I disagree however with your Hamilton vs Maldonado view – entirely.

        thats fine, the stewards and many of the drivers dont dissagree. Which is the most important ;)

        1. Only the steward’s opinion is important, but it is our opinion that should be. The opinions of drivers cannot be taken at face value as most won’t be objective and will have seen the incident once or twice. As Martin Brundle changed his opinion after several viewings there is the possibility that current drivers would do the same.

          As for red flags, it’s a nice idea but at most there should be a ban on changing tyres with provisions for punctures (which could be unfair) and changing weather conditions. But banning teams from working on the cars is a silly idea.

  8. webber’s probably advertising Pepe jeans in that photo, they’re a sponsor of red bull.

    I like the episode, it’s very interesting, but it’s basically a long interview with Buemi, Keith hardly gets a chance to speak!

    1. I think the reason most people said DC was that the photo showed a jaw. Both DC and MW have a box jaw, but DCs is more famous.

      1. don’t forget DC could turn the wheel with his jaw! incredile…

  9. Please continue to do these, Keith! I enjoy your input on the show (it’s a lot less dry than most of the tech people I’ve seen on there).

  10. Wow! First time I ever saw a video of Kieth.

    1. Sorry, Kieth should have been Keith.

  11. Such a good show, the format really allows for some in depth chat… bravo to all concerned!

  12. I could happily listen to a Keith and Peter podcast every race without the special guests :)

  13. Watched the whole video.
    I really liked seeing Buemi outside the race track and just being himself. He’s now one of my favorites.
    Nice references Keith.

  14. You are needed on that show, Keith!

  15. what a champion cannot wait to see the movie
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